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bigboy70
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or clay hill? right below Gopher's cabin?
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felipecj
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Okay, that helps me a lot. What i call the dug out must be clay hill then, cause as soon as you pass it you turn left and head up to the strip mines.
So then the rocky side up the mountain is actually called coalmine? Gotcha.
Is anyone else going up that way?
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94Blazer327
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Coal mine makes my truck run hot , Im sure there will be people heading up that way and if I hear about anybody Ill put you in touch with them.
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Mudlight
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Where is the Dry Creek side or how do you get to it? I hunt on Dry Creek road county road 4, its where Mt. Nebo church is.
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94Blazer327
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Its been about 8 years since I rode up that way , but if I remember right you gotta go up behind Paul Fowlers house , cross a creek and head up . You come out at the other side of the power line. I dont even know if that way is fit for a rig, as the last time I went that way it was on a honda. Nick may know.....
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Mudlight
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Our Property backs up to the creek & then goes up the mountain. We have some cool logging roads on the other side of the road.
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bluetoy
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Far as I know there is no legal access to come in from dry creek. My cousin's in-laws used to own the land at the bottom of that trail and we would park on it and ride atv's up to his buddies cabin to camp. The land they owned has since been sold, so I haven't been that way in years. I would think it would be best to stay away unless you have permission.
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94Blazer327
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I was riding with people that owned land on Dry Creek side. So permission wasnt an issue for me, I was just asking if one got permission from a landowner, if the trail was fit for a rig. Sorry for the confusion. |
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Mudlight
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Thanks, Nick. Our property is next to Dry Creek hunting club, there is probably no way to get there from our property. I was just interested in where it was located, I thought maybe it was the powerline. I'm not from this area just getting an idea where things are located.
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bluetoy
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The way we used to go up was a little ways before you get to the powerlines on the left side of the road. There was an old house place that my cousin's wife's family owned along with quite a bit of land. He had a buddy who owned a cabin up on the mtn that we camped in. That was the only way I have ever been up on that side and the road was basically just wide enough for an ATV. That was several years ago and I don't know anything about it now so I just stay out.
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Mudlight
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I don't plan on trespassing. Thanks for the info.
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bluetoy
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No problem. I just wanted to make it clear that I don't have permission to go in from dry creek anymore and I don't want anyone to get the wrong impression. There are a few landowners on the coalmine/bingham mtn areas that are totally against offroaders in general. I totally understand their frustration, but they are laying the blame in the wrong place. Probably everyone on this website and definately all RCRC members are not the ones causing problems and trashing their land. RCRC has hauled TONS of trash off that mountain and probably not a single piece was left by the people on this site. Even so, since there is no www.drunkenidiotsonATV's.com they get on the local 4wd club website (which is us) and assume that everyone that rides out there is a member. RCRC has tried to be more than cooperative with the fellow landowners, but some refuse to even talk to us and continue to slander our name. Our club could be a valuable asset to the landowners if they were willing to work with us. People who are passionate about this sport are generally good stewards of the land. It's the people who just go to get drunk and tear something up that give all off roaders a bad name. These people would not even consider joining a 4wd club, but still we get blamed for others actions. The actions of a few can ruin it for everyone.All of us on here need to get the word out to to the general off roading public that if they don't start respecting peoples property there is not gonna be anywhere left to go. When I got into this sport about 10 years ago you could ride about anywhere. Now days it's hard to find somewhere to go at all. Even places I regarded as public land , such as Tellico are under the gun. It's a crying shame that my 2yr old son will never even get to see some of the places I've enjoyed.
Sorry for the long post, but I'm tired of seeing gates go up and trails being shut down because of the actions of a few who won't respect others. Like I said, I don't think anyone on this site is part of the problem, but we need to get the word out to those who are. If we don't, nobody will until it's too late and another gate goes up somewhere else.
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94Blazer327
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The same thing (club being blamed for litter) has been happening at Monteagle with the Damn Locals in Coppinger Cove. The land owners assume that since theres a 4x4 organization in the area , that everybodys a part of it, including the people throwing out all their trash. I think TNMAN (Locals Prez) had a meeting with the landowners a while back to clear thier name. That might be what ya'll have to do if you havent done so already.
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alabamatoy
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I and three other guys wound up on that route once, coming down from the top. We were stopped and escorted off the property by a landowner. It wasnt at gunpoint, but he had a gun, and he basically told us that we could go out with him or Richard Brown (the major property owner at the base of the mtn) would have us arrested. We left and havent been back.
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J/Cope79
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Ok so Im a lil concerned. I have always been up there by going in through Killingsworth Cove. Is that a legal way to go in? I have been up there typically in my Jeep and occasionally with one other rig.
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alabamatoy
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TECHNICALLY its tresspassing. Part of the stairsteps trail is actually a county road, but not all of it, and once you get off the county ROW, you're on private property, no different than someone's yard in Cliff Cove subdivision. The issue is whether or not the actual landowners want to push the tresspass. Its my understanding of the law in Alabama (and I am no lawyer, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express....once....) if you are on someone's property, and its not your property, if you dont have written permission from that landowner in your possession, you are tresspassing. But someone has to a) catch you and b) press the charge. Generally, no one does unless they have some reason to do so. Also, in Alabama, you cannot prevent someone from accessing their legally owned/deeded property - but that access does not have to be convenient. As as far as I know, this does NOT apply to a lease.
Again, this is anecdotal, from talking to a lawyer and from talking to someone who manages lots of the land in the area in question.
Some will say, "I've been going there for years!" So what, that means nothing. This country's laws are based on private ownership of land, and the laws and law-enforcement folks all must respect that private ownership...most of the time. You go there purley at the pleasure of the landowners whose land you are crossing.
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J/Cope79
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Thanks for the info. Now my question is How do I go about getting permission to go up there using this route. Or better yet, which way is the legal way ? The last thing I want to do is get nailed for trespassing. That is one of my favorite places to go here locally so I it would be nice to be able to continue riding there.
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xtremepayne
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coal mine landowners are battleing everyone and each other right now to keep the gat locked as far as i know if you aint with a land owner or own land anyway you go up is trespassing the new market side is county to the gate and no further and gated and now they have made bypassing it impossible with large rocks and ditches so good luck |
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98TJ
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I don't think the www.xtremepayneoffroad.com link in your sig works any more.
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xtremepayne
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naw i shut down the website just havent gotten off my rear to fix sig or start a new one
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felipecj
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That's discouraging. Judging by your name on here i'm assuming you are one of the Payne's. I've heard of yall and seen some of your rigs. And if YOU are saying good luck getting up there, sounds like i need to pay attention to this.
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xjwheelin
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im new to the forum and im trying to get info on the easter ride.Can someone tell me where most people go up?Does anybody think ill have a prob makin it all the way through?88 xj 4.5 rough country 31in buckshots.Ive been a ways up the stairstep but never all the way up. I look forward to ridin with some other jeeps.
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Is your XJ locked?
Welcome to the forum btw. The trail I've been on I was able to manage pretty well on 33's with open diffs and IFS. As to what trail I was on... I couldn't tell ya. I was just following the next rig in front of me. I'm still trying to figure out where the heck we were.
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J/Cope79
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It would depend on the weather and how recently it has rained. I think you would be ok with a lil help in the tougher spots, if it is somewhat dry.
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jhall01
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coalmine=gay.....
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i am in for a clean up ride. i hate litter and the people that do it.
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xtremepayne
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yeah landowners have been at it for a while and now are going at each other.
the county hauled gravel for the road to the gate, but after that a private contractor was hired to build/maintain the road by the landowners association.
if they leave it open you can get up but if locked who knows about a key to get in or out cause they have changed locks a couple of times recently. dont know about other routes up like stairsteps. havent been there in a while.
from what i understand the hurricane side you can take a 2wd to clay hill if you can get in
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where is coal mine? |
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xjwheelin
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tried stairsteps yesterday after all the rain got up pretty far but there was no traction at all on the rocks. we had to turn around after the first big area of rocks after the mud. dont know if ill be trying it again. maybe it would be easier when it was dry but it seems to me youd need 35s to make it all the way. anybody ever made it with 31s and open diffs?
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browning67
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i made it all the way to powerlines and crawled around powerlines in this xj
which was open on 31s. just put the tires at 12psi and walked it around alot of stuff. but i got the job done. |
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