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    Posted: 04 April 2015 at 11:39am
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/04/automakers-say-you-dont-really-own-your-car

Most of the automakers operating in the US filed opposition comments through trade associations, along with a couple of other vehicle manufacturers. They warn that owners with the freedom to inspect and modify code will be capable of violating a wide range of laws and harming themselves and others. They say you shouldn’t be allowed to repair your own car because you might not do it right. They say you shouldn’t be allowed to modify the code in your car because you might defraud a used car purchaser by changing the mileage. They say no one should be allowed to even look at the code without the manufacturer’s permission because letting the public learn how cars work could help malicious hackers, “third-party software developers” (the horror!), and competitors.
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and yet within days of the first DRM controlled car being released you will be able to download and install whatever code you want onto those systems for free with a program readily available on the internet.

they don't get it and they never will.
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So why does our government have things like the CPSC and NHTSA? I thought they were to protect consumers from unsafe products but now COMPANIES want to "protect" people from themselves?

Sounds like another attempt to get rid of the aftermarket and neighborhood mechanics.

This crap makes me never want to buy a new car again.

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More, from Slashdot:
Automakers are supporting provisions in copyright law that could prohibit home mechanics and car enthusiasts from repairing and modifying their own vehicles. In comments filed with a federal agency that will determine whether tinkering with a car constitutes a copyright violation, OEMs and their main lobbying organization say cars have become too complex and dangerous for consumers and third parties to handle. The dispute arises from a section of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act that no one thought could apply to vehicles when it was signed into law in 1998. But now, in an era where cars are rolling computing platforms, the U.S. Copyright Office is examining whether provisions of the law that protect intellectual property should prohibit people from modifying and tuning their cars.
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this is stupid. 

i could see a case for copyright infringment if say, i went to the ford store, bought a bunch of superduties, reprogrammed them to have 500 more hp and then resold them as dalton brand.

where is the company financially hurt if i buy a truck and then change its programming for my own use? 
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